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Rex Rotham Amarr Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.25 12:53:00 - [1] For all the bashing CCP takes, I think they do in an incredible job. I was very impressed when CCP made the decision to implement the 24 hour learning queue, and I'm equally as impressed with their decision to remove learning skills. To those who don't appreciate CCP, you have a gaming studio that actually LISTENS to what the player base wants. They obviously can't make everyone happy but some things are so overwhelmingly obvious that the majority of sensible players want it - this is one of those cases. Great job CCP, stay awesome.
Rex Rotham Amarr Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.25 16:32:00 - [2] Assuming you maxed ALL learning skills, you'd have: 5,736,000 skillpoints in learning. Now also assuming you always wear a full set of +5 implants and have a 15/9 attribute mapping, your effective training speed drops from 2772 to 2700, or a net loss of 72sp/hr. Being given the 5.736m skillpoints to redistribute into other skills divided by the 72sp/hr you lose means it will take 79,666.667 hours before you effectively begin to actually feel the effects of your drop in SP/HR. That is the equivalent of 3,319 days (9 years, 31 days) 10 hours and 40 minutes. So, for those of you in that exact situation, set your clocks to over 9 years from now (assuming you maintain perfect training speed for the duration of the time listed above) so that when that date hits you can begin super emo rage.
Rex Rotham Amarr Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.25 16:47:00 - [3] By the way, to those arguing that the game is being "dumbed down"... there is nothing more dumb than pointless skills which are a time sink / have no play value. And for the record, new subscribers that stay is a good thing. Low membership is not equivalent to a game with depth. More money for CCP means more money for development, and thus existing problems get fixed quicker while they do a more quality job of developing new features. If you want to be alone, open a MUD on a local server and play by yourself. You can call it EvE Offline if you wish.
Rex Rotham Amarr Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.25 16:49:00 - [4] Originally by: I'thari Originally by: Rex Rotham Edited by: Rex Rotham on 25/11/2010 16:40:38 Edited by: Rex Rotham on 25/11/2010 16:40:21 Assuming you maxed ALL learning skills, you'd have: 5,376,000 skillpoints in learning. Now also assuming you always wear a full set of +5 implants and have a 15/9 attribute mapping, your effective training speed drops from 2772 to 2700, or a net loss of 72sp/hr. Being given the 5.376m skillpoints to redistribute into other skills divided by the 72sp/hr you lose means it will take 79,666.667 hours before you effectively begin to actually feel the effects of your drop in SP/HR. That is the equivalent of 3,319 days (9 years, 31 days) 10 hours and 40 minutes. So, for those of you in that exact situation, set your clocks to over 9 years from now (assuming you maintain perfect training speed for the duration of the time listed above) so that when that date hits you can begin super emo rage. Now remove SP that needed to get 5/4 learning skills (almost new traning speed) and recalculate. 5M sp is in no way reimbursment for slower traning time - it's reimbursment of SP I have now. Considering that everyone else gets it it is in no way 5M SP advantage - it's a way less. Its not reimbursement of what you have now because its being utilized in a different manner. Figure out what you're going to do with your reimbursement, and then how long it would have taken if you just had to train it straight up. That's time saved. It more than compensates for the time you will lose years from now.
Rex Rotham Amarr Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.25 17:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Odins Blood im just glad i can now cancel my wow account since eve wont have that learning curve anymore i can get all the easymode i want here now! Learning Curve = Having to learn HOW to do things, as in knowledge and skill and understanding. Learning Curve != Time grind.
Rex Rotham Amarr Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.25 23:35:00 - [6] Here's an idea - CCP can add a 7x skill called "complexity". It could give a 5% bonus per level to satisfaction for those who feel disenfranchised by learning skills being removed. Then add a 14x skill to follow it up to provide another 5% bonus per level to satisfaction. There, all parties are satisfied... those who want a time sink, and those who don't.

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